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This is a continuation from my previous Post. The references are linked there.
I do not authorize psychological nor psychiatric formulations, interpretations nor diagnosis, etc. I am not a lawyer, this is no legal advice nor advice of any kind, I am not knowledgeable enough in Politics nor Sociology. Which by the way are not Sciences. I am not a Scholar.
From “Understanding the psychological aspects of the radicalisation process: a sociocognitive approach”
“It has been established that psychopathological and psychiatric approaches specific to personal factors, as described above, have failed to identify a profile connected to mental illness or psychopathological structures. Nor have psychoanalytical approaches demonstrated heuristic value.” [Psycho divergent stuff has no Value to create rules to understand Radicalized individuals. There is no profile connected from Mental illness or Psychopathological Structures, the way ones Imaginary Disordered or Divergent Mind is, to Radicalization]
Meaning there is nothing mentally wrong nor divergent nor different with you my Haters regarding mental issues:
´The sociocognitive framework of personality has been broadly validated. The use of this framework permits a return to the psychological aspects of radicalisation through mental operations (processes) and sociocognitive content (e.g. representations, schemas, distortions) that constitute the person’s interpretive system. Indeed, “individual radicalisation takes place during the changing phase in which a combination of reflection, knowledge acquisition and identity reassessment occurs. Changes in behaviour (including violent behaviour) is one product of the outcome phase and is a reflection of the solidification and empowerment of the individual’s new meaning perspective, belief system, and identity” ´
Wow…
“Like any other type of behaviour, radicalisation can be considered a process in which the reciprocal determinism that guides the relationships between the person, their behaviour and their environment permanently modifies the person’s whole interpretive system. Radicalisation is therefore identified by a progressive and continuous transformation of representations, goals, beliefs and sources of reinforcement.”
´“the radicalisation process, which can be defined as “a process through which people become increasingly motivated to use violent means against members of an out-group or symbolic targets to achieve behavioural change and political goals”´ [Symbolic as in Patriarchy and perhaps Males in General, or Toxic Masculinity]
“These cognitive processes [underlying radicalization] may indicate an intellectual attraction to the themes advocated by the radical cause as soon as an orientation to the cause appears. “ [Maybe meaning just because it´s Fancyful or in Vogue]
“This cognitive openness [to radicalization] may be triggered by a personal crisis or may be associated with previous social experiences of discrimination or victimisation… In the same way, McCauley and Moskalenko consider a first radicalisation level that comprises sympathisers who adhere to the radical cause without endorsing violence.” [They might be put, or put themselves in a position opened to Radicalization by mere Sympathy with the Cause!]
In this article the next step after “Identity activism” is “Terrorist involvement”. I wonder what is Terrorist Language?.
And in figure 1 “Collective Pressure” is at the bottom of the Radicalization Process.
“The fascination phase comprises the first two radicalisation stages, which translate the dynamic of reconciliation through the subjective analysis of the specific attributes of the radical cause and the positive valence that the person gives it according to his/her own history. At this stage, the person usually adopts the position of a victim, characterised by a negative individualism fed by the biased representations of persecution, misunderstanding, injustice and demands.” [It says Subjective analysis, not Objective Analysis, and the fascinated value the cause positively according to their lived experience. No objectivity required]
“The radicalisation phase also comprises two parts. In the first, the person evolves toward identity adherence, which is characterised by proactively taking steps to look for peers while distancing him/herself from traditional referents (e.g. family, school, other associations). The person also adopts an increasingly polarised view of the world [like us versus them]. The emergence of activism follows the process of engagement and identity affirmation. Activism can be described as peri-democratic to the extent that it is situated on the fringes of social and democratic norms.This level of identity adherence is principally the sounding board that constitutes a group of peers at this stage of the radicalisation process. The person is no longer only reinforced by their own representations in relation to themselves, or by the effect they believe they have on their environment, but also by the positive feedback they receive from external observers [like Personalities praising such causes], whose adherence to the cause emphasises and reinforces the choices made. ”
Wow…
From “Motivations for Jihad and Cognitive Dissonance – A Qualitative Analysis of Former Swedish Jihadists”
“When being interviewed, rather than reflecting on their deeper motivations, active jihadists often seek either to justify their behavior [he or they hate us for instance, they are Evil, they don´t know] or to make statements that are conducive to recruiting new members.”
“Whatever the cause [of cognitive dissonance], when faced with dissonance, an individual has two options to reduce it: change cognitions about behavior and change actions; or change cognitions about the effects or meaning of actions.”
The case of Ahmed, a young Boy in the 80s shows to me impotence and sympathy or empathy were motives for his radicalization. As such feeling bad about others´ situation, particularly relatable ones, a suffering that cannot be addressed like Mental with Science, an impossibility, can lead to “Rather than changing his cognitions about his current actions, Ahmed chose to change his actions by becoming a jihadist.”
“…It remains to be further studied why others choose the former option [changing cognitions] and do not become violent radicals. It is clearly less demanding, in terms of the sacrifices one must make, to change cognitions about the effects or meanings of staying at home by arguing that one individual cannot make a significant difference, rather than risking one’s life by becoming a jihadist.”
This part is important because believing in ADHD, Autism, Trans and Patriarchy might seem innocuos, even helpful, but they are not: Medication for ADHD and Autism do cause harms and provide no Benefit as Peter C. Gøtzsche has show for Psychiatric Medications.
Transition treatment uses hormones without benefit, that is at least an economic harm, and Propaganda perhaps normalizing Radicalization with other Ideologies, and despite the apparent controversy, having no benefit to show is in the same situation as Gøtzsche has shown for Psychiatric Medications: nothing but harm since it can´t have a benefit.
And Transitioning treatment with no benefit normalizes Psychiatric Medication with only Harms. Double: it promotes the pernicious Idea treatments with no benefit are not only Ok, but are worth fighting for!. Are worth being Activists for them and their use!. Are worth Hating for!.
He did it by analyses of Published Research, he has a new Book on it specifically, which still I haven´t read from last November/December, free of course.
I showed it can´t have a measurable benefit because they don´t and can´t say anything that is Real and Measurable because Empircism does not apply to anything Mental.
Specially considering Radicalized individuals have nothing wrong, disordered nor divergent regarding Mental issues as quoted at the beginning of this Post. So Radicalized Ideologues of ADHD, Autism, Trans and Patriarchy have another line of evidence telling them: they probably have no mental issue as causative for their Radicalization.
The Activists, the Radicalized probably have no Mental cause to their ails and Propaganda even as mere Philosophical rhetoric, and those are the ones claiming it explains the World, their suffering, problems, etc. They are as such the least likely to use Mental cuasi-explanations for anything they are Activists or promoters of.
And it is inferable, they have no cause to mitigate with treatments for ADHD, Autism, Trans and Patriarchy. Specially because as Radicalized and Activists what they need to change is their thinking, not their acting in name of those causes.
´“Norms can be defined as “standards of behavior defined in terms of rights and obligations” or as “a set of intersubjective understandings readily apparent to actors that makes behavioral claims on those actors.”´
Intersubjective here meaning agreed with others in an apparent way as how people should behave like.
Like showing respect, obedience to the Law and using rationality to act.
And changing ones mind before acting when exposed to a Radicalization Process instead of just changing actions from such Beliefs, specially when such Groups or Individuals change how they feel about the Law, Responsibility and How they should behave to others, specially those not sharing their Beliefs, not Sharing their Ideologies.
You know, the oh oothers…
´“According to Florini, “Norms are most likely to obtain their initial foothold through the efforts of a ‘norm entrepreneur,’ an individual or organization that sets out to change the behavior of others.”´
Like Peddlers of said Ideologies inventing new Norms.
´However, Ahmed “doubted the religious legitimacy of killing other Muslims” and realized that fighting other Muslims would have required adopting the norm of takfir. Cognitions vary in the extent to which they are resistant to change. For example, the level of “clarity of the ‘reality’ represented by the cognition” can be such that what is perceived as a “fact” gives rise to “clear and firm cognitions.” First impressions can be decisive in this respect [Such as coming from an Influencer the first time a Person is exposed to a Belief, specially if passed as a FACT]. Although now, in retrospect, he was critical of what happened, Ahmed explained that his motivation became rather stable because of the foundation laid by the recruiters in the two mosques he had frequented in Sweden: “Just because some people have the longest beards does not mean that they know much about Islam. But when you do not know about anything else, you can be convinced [by them]. When you later come into contact with other opinions, you dismiss them. What you first come into contact with is the most important influence.”´
To the last paragraph I am sure some of my Haters will say that was not their case, that it was a process of seeing the Truth, of finding the Truth. Coming to terms with Reality.
In the abstract I can agree with such possibility, as a valid hypothetical. My Haters keep your discovery and convincing processes to yourselves.
But it does apply to teenagers exposed for the first time to said Ideologies, specially from an Authoritative or Influential Figure. Like someone with many readers, subscribers and Many Likes, not just the Typical Influencers.
“However, the most interesting aspect from an analytical perspective was that adopting this new idea or norm strengthened the effect of cognitive dissonance by increasing the level of discomfort, prompting him to act [like using violent or Hateful Speech]. Thus, ideas do matter, but sometimes in a rather complex manner, as their effect can be indirect.”
From “Evidence of Psychological Manipulation in the Process of Violent Radicalization: An Investigation of the 17-A Cell”
This article focuses on Manipulation to Radicalize People.
´Radicalization is described as a “social and psychological process of incrementally experienced commitment to extremist political or religious ideology”. This process is unique to each individual although common recurring features can be identified.´
Extremism is the advocation, the advocacy of extreme measures or views, such as Desperate Remedies, Irrationality, Pseudoscience, Hate and Violence.
Extreme: Being far beyond the norm.
“Looking more closely at the radicalization risk factors presented by young people, Adam-Troian et al. consider three specific components: (1) the experience of more extreme and variable emotions, (2) greater threat/stress sensitivity, and (3) commitment with violence. According to this perspective, adolescents experience more extreme and variable emotions given deficits in both emotional regulation and emotion reactivity (sensitivity)”
Not entirely in agreement with the first Referenced Article, but this is targeted at Manipulation, it could explain the apparent incongruity, perhaps indicating Healthy Teenagers could be targets of Manipulation to Radicalization in ADHD, Autism, Trans and Patriarchy Ideologies.
But notice how experiencing more extreme and variable emotions, greater sensitivity to threats and stress are part of Healthy Adolescence and not of mere Imaginations like ADHD, Gender Dysphoria and Autism. And acting on those extreme and variable emotions: reactivity. Not merely feeling it. They respond more extremely and variably!.
Note: Measuring the “experience” of “more” “extreme” and “variable” emotion, without saying which emotion, can be confused with a lot of things. “Greater” “sensitivity” to “stress” and “greater” “sensitivity” to “threats” can be confused with a lot of things, specially without specifying which threats and which stresses. And not saying either what Reactions.
And in that paragraph doesn´t mention one critical thing totally relevant to Radicalization: The Environment. Assuming one could measure such “extreme” and “variable” emotions with an Emotionmeter, doing it in the Environment is way more complicated. Specially from the Future, and from Memories…
Invoking vulnerability to one or a few things, whatever, as causal or explanatory without a Theory, A Scientific Theory, can and does lead to randomly associate things that are Healthy which then can be defined as abnormal, at least in the it already says “outside the norm” for Healthy Adolescence in the word extreme.
And what would be extreme vulnerability in Adolescence?. Extreme extremists sensitivity and reactivity with extreme extremists emotional experiences?.
There are vulnerable Teens, but I bet most Trans, ADHDers, Autisters and Patriarchysters probably are not in a causal way. Nor in an explicatory way, and decidedly not in Predictive Way. At least to be Activists nor Radicalized with such Ideologies.
“In conclusion, because some developmental characteristics make youth more sensitive to threats that can lead them to engage in political violence, age could be considered a risk factor for radicalization” [Remember there is no psychopathology to Radicalization]
“Given these risk factors, it is clear that the aim of recruiters is to lead young people to emotional and cognitive states that facilitate violent disinhibition”. [Like the ones I have suffered here at Substack]
“Psychological manipulation is a directed and systematic process carried out by an indoctrinating hierarchy with the application of specific techniques and strategies. Manipulation is contemplated as something subtle, imperceptible, and gradual without the application of violence or force. Defined in this way, individuals are unaware of the manipulation, which undermines their volitional capacity” [It degrades their Free Will. Directed: You must believe in this. Systematic: With a Method or a System. Indoctrinate: To imbue with a partisan or ideological point of view. Partisan Indoctrination: To imbue with Beliefs belonging only to a fraction of People. Ideological indoctrination: To imbue with Doctrines or Beliefs shared by members of a Social Group. Indoctrination is not Teaching nor Learning General Knowledge shared by ALL PEOPLE by Definition]
“According to Cuevas, terrorist and cultist dynamics are nearly identical, with the only difference being the use of fear and violence by terrorist groups as a means of self-assertion.” [Like using violence to make one´s point and affirm one´s identity causing fear to write, express oneself, present a counterpoint and even help those in need of Help: That is Terrorizing People my Haters]
“These techniques include isolation, control of information, creation of a state of existential dependence [which is not a Logical dependence, it is a Philosophical concept, not a real one], and psychophysical weakening. The second group includes emotional techniques aimed at influencing the feelings and emotions of the subjects to generate greater submission to the group. Among these techniques we find emotional activation of joy, activation of fear, guilt, and anxiety, as well as rewards and punishments. The third group comprises cognitive techniques used to confuse and alter mental processes.” [Emotional rewards and punishments for agreeing and disagreeing, and making People confused about what Reality, Science and Medicine Really do talk about: not Ideologies for Sure]
Remember: Science has and uses Knowledge that is General.
“Among these techniques are denigration of critical thinking, lies and deception, demand for condescension and group identification, control of attention, control over language, and alteration of sources of authority.”
Lies and Deception are techniques for Manipulation. Deceive: To cause to believe what is not true; mislead. To catch by guile; ensnare.
And such Manipulation techniques to me looks a lot like anti-vaccine Propagada and Behavior. And probably there are more similars.
Explaining to me the appearance of Radicalized vs Radicalized of the Discourse with Terrorism overtones.
There are other parallels in Group identification such as Group Thinking, Control over Language such as Jargon use, Perceived Conflict as us vs them, as techniques and indicators of the Strategy of Cognitive Control.
The second most frequently noted Manipulation technique is Control of Information: your likes and dislikes, what you read, what you choose and what you censor. But in the article it seems applied externally. But I guess the old Rabbit hole works similarly enough.
One mechanism to Denigration of Critical Thinking is repetition, frequent and prolonged exposure to Propaganda. In the Study Case included violent radical content and biased interpretations.
In the case analyzed the leader did not limit the access to information sources, but through guidance and manipulation led People to the information he wanted them to access inducing them by making them uncomfortable and in greater need for clear or firm answers.
In appearance being Subjective and not Objective, and therefore perhaps then independent of Reality: mere Belief.
So my haters, by trying to delegitimize my work by using inane, belittling or hateful speech you are in fact Manipulating believers like you, preventing and even stopping other People from finding answers that are clear, firm, Objective and Real, at least from me…
The Leader did not create any Ideas of his own, he parroted distorted ones apparently for Emotional Control. And passed himself as an Authority which by the use of Distorted Ideas he was not.
And in said Network, a Terrorist one nonetheless, there was a collaborative process of participation without restriction and information flow on a flattened hierarchy. The flattened hierarchy was for information flow, not for the Source of Distorted Information.
Like ignoramuses writing ignoramusings from the Same Erroneous or Distorted Sources.
Wow…
Similar to promoting like minded content, attacking disliked content, and sharing violent and distorted content, I infer.
Process facilitated by similar circumstances, origins and values among the sharers of Information.
So, to me it seems that as long such behaviors persist for ADHD, Autism, Trans and Patriarchy, the Sources are not that Relevant being of the same Content, and exclusionary of alternate views including Real Knowledge, not mere Beliefs.
Like in not presenting in ones Writings enough Context, quoting selectively and misleadingly, ignoring relevant arguments against ones propositions, not answering questions nor criticisms, etc.
Like Behaving at least intellectually dishonestly.
Not being an expert or knowledgeable enough. Not doing enough background reading. Being an expert in something and using erroneous ideas from another field as support for ones writings.
Excluding critical voices from reading and commenting on one´s own writings with the intent of not allowing oneself and others, the Readers, making their own thinking Independently and Unbaised.
By promoting with actions and omissions the impression the writer has no opposition, that there can´t be reasonable doubt, or more accurately concealing the writer is decidedly wrong…
From the mere abstract, I am not getting into it, at least not now:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1057610X.2022.2109244#abstract
“Our findings indicate that linguistic proxies for identity fusion combined with mediating and moderating variables such as existential threat narratives, violence-condoning group norms and dehumanizing vocabulary, can be reliably identified and are more prevalent in the documents of would-be terrorists.”. [A proxy in this context is a measure or a sign indicating the value of something that cannot be seen or measured directly]
Wow…
Maybe saying People with ADHD and Autism are going to die if they are not diagnosed and medicated could be considered Terrorist Language. Similar for Trans or Patriarchy rhetoric. Absent causality.
I don´t deny violence against the self proclaimed or labeled Neurodivergent exists and not only should not be promoted nor condoned, but prevented and prosecuted.
I do not support violence to either Group, as I do not against Trans persons nor Patriarchy believers.
But, being Language I think it could be an avenue worth exploring further: Terrorist Language…
Leaving the question: How does a Radicalized Individual feel better?. How does a Radicalized feel Good?. Hum?.
If Radicalization was a treatment, say a Psychotherapy, how would it make the Radicalized feel better or feel Good?.
Considering there was nothing abnormal with them psychopathologically speaking?.
That´s not a Placebo effect, and has no Causality to feeling good because some Neurodivergence nor a Gender Identity Issue.
They must feel so Good at some point to Become Terrorists…
Why?.
Thanks.
Federico Soto del Alba.